{"id":10006956,"date":"2019-04-24T09:35:13","date_gmt":"2019-04-24T13:35:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/vanyaland.com\/?p=10006956"},"modified":"2019-04-24T09:36:37","modified_gmt":"2019-04-24T13:36:37","slug":"ratboys-road-to-good-luck-is-paved-with-post-country-music","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/vanyaland.com\/2019\/04\/24\/ratboys-road-to-good-luck-is-paved-with-post-country-music\/","title":{"rendered":"Ratboys&#8217; road to \u2018good luck\u2019 is paved with post-country music"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"p1\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ratboysband.com\/\"><b>Ratboys<\/b><\/a> have Illinois alternative music history down to a science. So much so, that when lead singer and guitarist Julia Steiner recalls the styles of fellow in-state groups Uncle Tupelo and Wilco, she puts forth her own burgeoning genre on the (turn)table: Post-country.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>\u201c<\/b>Post-country music to me is music that draws influence from the alt-country music that came before. Bands like Uncle Tupelo and The Jayhawks and even Lucinda Williams\u2019 and Tom Petty\u2019s &#8217;90s and 2000s records have influenced a massive amount of contemporary indie and DIY bands, and to me, it shows,&#8221; she explains to <em>Vanyaland<\/em>. \u201cI agree that genre semantics shouldn\u2019t be taken too seriously, which is largely where the idea for post-country came from in the first place.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">Clearly, if current phenomenon \u201cOld Town Road\u201d by Lil Nas X has proved anything, it\u2019s that country music knows no single form &#8212; and Ratboys have been running with that idea for eight years now.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\">Following the release of last year\u2019s EP <em>GL<\/em> (which stands for &#8220;Good Luck,&#8221; prefaced by its counterpart album <em>GN<\/em> &#8211;\u201cGood Night\u201d), the Chicago group <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bowerypresents.com\/boston\/shows\/detail\/367359-pup\">performs alongside PUP and Diet Cig this Thursday (April 25) at Royale<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\">Read on below for <em>Vanyaland<\/em>\u2019s chat with Steiner about Ratboys\u2019 forthcoming LP, writing outside of her personal experiences, and why exactly post-country is a totally valid subgenre.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Victoria Wasylak: It\u2019s been a year since the release of <em>GL<\/em>. What\u2019s next for you, release-wise? Did you know you were going to release a follow-up of sorts when you recorded <em>GN<\/em>?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Julia Steiner: We recently recorded our third LP here in Chicago at a studio called Decade. Out of 10 songs, we recorded eight of them live, with drums, bass, and two guitars all being played in the same room at the same time. We\u2019ve never tried that approach before, and we\u2019re really excited with how it turned out. These new recordings sound much closer to how we sound on stage these days i.e. a bit more present and rockin\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>When we recorded <em>GN<\/em> we knew we had a few extra songs on the table that we still wanted to record. We had some free time a couple months after we recorded <em>GN<\/em> so we went back to the same studio with the same engineer (our friend Mikey Crotty) and laid down the songs on <em>GL<\/em>. It all came together really quickly and felt like a good extension of the LP.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Most people write songs about themselves or people they know personally. Turning the focus outward &#8212; towards people you don\u2019t know &#8212; tends to be much more difficult. On songs like &#8220;Crying About the Planets&#8221; [about Antarctic explorer Douglas Mawson] and &#8220;Peter the Wild Boy,&#8221; why did you choose to write about people you\u2019ve never met? What was that like, and how did you pick those two people in particular?\u2028\u2028<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s weird, I find it to be almost the opposite of what you mentioned &#8212; I have a lot of trouble writing about myself, mainly because I, like everybody, have a tendency to repress memories of pain or discomfort that I\u2019ve experienced. So digging up the stuff that feels important and necessary to grapple with in a song takes time and hurts. Also, I sometimes get self-conscious that writing about details of my own life will keep people from relating to the songs or enjoying them. But, I usually snap out of that and let myself write lyrics for me. And then let people do whatever they want with them.<\/p>\n<p><iframe src=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed\/album\/5dKlE1VfPkk0BoJUYdeuYS\" width=\"100%\" height=\"400\" frameborder=\"0\" allowtransparency=\"true\" allow=\"encrypted-media\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>I feel like 80 percent of the lyrics I write are about my life and my experiences. But then sometimes I come across absolutely incredible and gripping true stories in reading books and Wiki articles, and I feel compelled to write about them. I find sometimes, with the stories I feel most drawn to, that the facts themselves are poetry, that the events and history is already so loaded with meaning that lyrics come quickly and spring from one to the next, because the story is already there and just is ready to be discovered. Stumbling upon figures and stories like that feels like a huge gift whenever it happens. It doesn\u2019t happen often, but when it does I try to make the most of it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>You\u2019re a duo, but you tour with additional people. Is that hard to adapt to? How does it change the band\u2019s dynamic, or your sound overall?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yeah, Dave and I started Ratboys as a duo back when we met as college students, but we started playing with a more full-band setup, adding drums and bass, very early on. We\u2019ve always toured with at least four of us in the band, and that feels so natural and satisfying. Shout out to our friend Sean Neumann, who has been playing bass with us live for more than two years now, and to our friend Marcus Nuccio who has toured with us playing drums since 2017 as well.<\/p>\n<p>We\u2019ve actually gotten to tour with nine different drummers up to now, including our friends Ian Paine-Jesam, Nnamdi Ogbonnaya, Brendan Smyth, etc. Our friend Cody Owens joined us on the trumpet for a bunch of tours as well. Dave and I always feel honored and grateful that our friends are willing to lend themselves to our songs and make them better.<\/p>\n<p>But yeah, it wasn\u2019t really hard to adapt to playing with more people at the beginning because that\u2019s what I wanted. I remember being in high school and watching First Aid Kit get big, first on YouTube and MySpace, and then they eventually started touring and have had a really successful career in the music industry. I saw them perform in Dublin in 2012, which was a year after Dave and I started this project, and they had a full band adding all sorts of cool elements to their songs. Their duo dynamic was still intact, and yet there was still more to love on stage. That\u2019s kind of the model for what I want our band to be like.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u2028I typically don\u2019t get into genre semantics, &nbsp;but I have to ask &#8212; what is post-country music to you? &nbsp;How do you fit into that style? And how does that fit into the DIY world?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Post-country music to me is music that draws influence from the alt-country music that came before. Bands like Uncle Tupelo and The Jayhawks and even Lucinda Williams\u2019 and Tom Petty\u2019s &#8217;90s and 2000s records have influenced a massive amount of contemporary indie and DIY bands, and to me, it shows. I hear a lot of acoustic guitar and steel guitar and train beats and traditional storytelling techniques floating around in music right now, but oftentimes in fresh, fractured, original ways that sound reminiscent of a style but also totally new. Spencer Radcliffe, Pinegrove, Bad Heaven Limited, Waxahatchee, all sound like post-country to me. I\u2019m not sure if they\u2019re down with the term, but hopefully so.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m right there with you, though, I agree that genre semantics shouldn\u2019t be taken too seriously, which is largely where the idea for post-country came from in the first place. When I first met Dave, he introduced me to a bunch of subgenres I had never heard of like post-hardcore and post-punk and post-rock, and I was just like what the hell. I was so confused and amused by all of that. But then I thought about sticking a \u201cpost-&#8221; in front of country, and it actually made a lot of sense to me, I think it\u2019s interesting to see how sounds continue to develop across generations or even just as we all get older. For me, if Uncle Tupelo is alt-country, then Wilco is post-country.<\/p>\n<p><strong>You released your first song together 10 years ago. What does it feel like to reach that special milestone as a band?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>So we really need to change the date of that first Bandcamp release because we actually recorded it in 2011, not 2009. We put 2009 as the release year because it was a cover of a friend\u2019s song, and the title that he had used on MySpace had \u201c2009\u201d in it. We put up our first songs on Bandcamp on April 1, 2011. The past eight years have been amazing, and we feel so lucky to still be making music together. 2021 will be a big year, that\u2019s for sure.<\/p>\n<p><strong>PUP + DIET CIG + RATBOYS :: Friday, April 25 at Royale, 279 Tremont St. in Boston, MA :: 7 p.m., all ages, sold out :: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bowerypresents.com\/boston\/shows\/detail\/367359-pup\">Bowery Boston event page<\/a> ::&nbsp; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/events\/2130715670592122\/\">Facebook event page<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed-youtube wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"&quot;Elvis Is in the Freezer&quot; by Ratboys (official video)\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/zcb2tDmywKY?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ratboys have Illinois alternative music history down to a science. 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